Curse

Age · Jan 26, 2008, 12:15 AM // 00:15

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Originally Posted by Hailey Anne

Because it is so easy to get without really working for it.
Once you get to Lutz you can hfff your way to lvl 3 survivor without doing anything to get it.
It is a worthless title for the most part because it doesnt say that youre good enough to get it on your own.

You heard wrong. Its one of the easiest titles in the game. See above.

That is if you can get through the city and all missions safely without dieing therefore it still makes it harder.

tmr819 · Jan 26, 2008, 12:32 AM // 00:32

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Originally Posted by Moral55

Sure it would dude,
and I really want to be told to GTFO because some angry guy had his entire guild ignore list me B/C I won on RA, and another B/C I would not drop some weapon on the ground for him.
Any other abuses possible Hmm?

You make a good point. A counter to that might be to add some kind of "/report" option rather than an "/ignore" and code it so you can only "/report" someone you had grouped with recently. "PLAYER NAME has been reported by 52 former teammates."

I would still like the "/ignore" option I described earlier in this thread, all the same.

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Originally Posted by Bryant Again

Sounds cool, but they'd have to up the ignore (and friends) limit, first.

You are absolutely right. What is it now, like 10 or 20 in GW? I find I use "/ignore" far FAR less often in GW than I did in WoW. I guess the extensive instancing cuts down substantially on the inane and/or offensive chat, bad behavior, and general griefing.

Eviance · Jan 26, 2008, 01:58 AM // 01:58

Ok let me sum up this thread if I can:

Guildies>Heros>Henchies>PUG?

So ok I get this and totally agree. Then you have people who go, "You should have zoned or logged!" Ok I get that as well. What I don't get is when the combo is a mixture of those AND "I hate it when survivors party, then zone when things get rough." or those that state that while saying never PUG... You can't mix topics, stick to a theme!

See now if you told them, you run the risk of them doing what the OP was complaining about.
If you zone and then get the group feeling just the same as you the survivor would have, had they purposefully killed you.

For those of you who say that Anet will not do anything about "A$$hats" and that it's not against the rules then will you please open your EULA and reread it or go HERE!:http://www.guildwars.com/support/legal/ You are not permitted to intentionally do something that will ruin someone elses gameplay.

Getting a title in a cheap way is not a dirrect violation to those of you who feel cheated - they don't know you did it the hard way.

Guy KNEW they were getting survivor and for his final show of maturity yelled SURVIVE THIS as he pulled a mob.... Direct violation so long as people care enough to /report it.

To the OP, sorry there are so many jerks but yes, keep to guildies or trusted friends and so forth - it's less of a headache - or if you must pay for a run then don't state you are a survivor.
Just the same if enough people /report on a person over time, eventually it will ring bells somewhere and down comes the long overdue banstick.

I find longer lasting effects from being kind. But then, I never PUG unless at least one other guildie is with me and they push the issue. Sad really, PUGs used to be worth it.

william1975 · Jan 26, 2008, 02:14 AM // 02:14

I suppose its all very easy to say use a reliable friend, use guildmates, and don't pug.

There is one major problem with that kind of attitude. How do you get friends or join a guild group without pugging?

I have achieved legendary on one character so far and did so utilising skill to get to level 20 and then relying on the help of my partner and tactics to get their. Not all have this ability. And some may even want to get survivor on their first charcter if they research the game before playing.

isisaset · Jan 26, 2008, 04:41 PM // 16:41

Ok, that is just.....MEAN! I realize it's the way of the world, but wow, cannot understand that sort of person.

I reached survivor on 2 characters and I fought the entire time with each (no runners, no special treatment) but I also had to avoid pugs like the proverbial plague the entire process. Never got beyond the first level of that title though - one was SO close to the next and I ran into a mission that pretty well required an actual party... *sobbing* hehe But it wasn't a title I was trying for, just an "if it happens" type of thing. It is quite fun, though, to challenge yourself with that one - play as you normally would and see how far you can get.

Thinking back, it is pretty sad that, in order to achieve a goal (whether anyone else likes it or not is moot), you have to avoid other living players!

=HT=Ingram · Jan 26, 2008, 05:12 PM // 17:12

Remember the GW community while it has a large showing of mature players, Also has the 5 yr olds that are in it just to screw someone else.

And with the game showing its ages its starting to be that the 5yr olds are starting to become the majority, as most of the others are either retired from the game, or only play it occasionally waiting for GW2 to happen.

Gift3d · Jan 26, 2008, 09:12 PM // 21:12

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Originally Posted by Perkunas

Hell bent on spoiling other people's fun and hard work.

Tonight I was in a group running to Beacon's from Yak's. One guy in the group that was level 9, said he was on his 6th try for survival title, guild mate was running him. I didn't mention I was working on it too. A level 3 E/Mo was trash talking survivors in general, "Quitters", "Worthless Title", etc... When we reached Anvil Rock and the runner had taken off, the E/Mo shouted "Survive this!!" Ran over and aggroed the mob of Minataurs and ran back towards us, typing, "Rofl", "lmao", "Bitch." Party wipe, and all the little @$$hole could do was laugh. Several very unhappy people quit, including the runner.

Why do people hate Survivors so much? Is it because they can't play smart enough to get it, so they are going to try and screw up other's hard work?

How many here hate survivors enough to do the same thing?

This just in: Guild Wars is not the online utopia you try and make it out to be.
Welcome to the internet. Enjoy your stay.

The Little Viking · Jan 26, 2008, 10:55 PM // 22:55

I remember once just after factions came out, I was running this one little ele...(I felt so bad!). Sounds like the same area, minitars? Anyway, i had told her, stay by the gate, if the minitars come, go thru the gate and we will start over. no biggie. JUST DONT DIE! Well, they came at her and she panicked. died. She was lvl 15. So close yet so far. I never found out if she started over or gave up. But as to the people that hate the survivors...I just belive they hate them because they dont have the smarts to do it them selves. As for those trying to achive it, or have achived it, GOOD JOB...wish i had the patience for it.

DDL · Jan 27, 2008, 12:30 AM // 00:30

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Originally Posted by Gift3d

This just in: Guild Wars is not the online utopia you try and make it out to be.
Welcome to the internet. Enjoy your stay.

That's not exactly helpful, really.

Yes, "shock horror: internet full of a$$holes" is hardly going to be a headline anytime soon, but coming face to face with that level of sheer pointless malevolence is _always_ going to be a surprise. You know idiots are out there, but the idea that they're out there and JUST WAITING for an opportunity to ruin your day is...hard to ever get used to.

And to be honest, it's not something you ever SHOULD get used to: that would leave you simply avoiding all people online, ever. And while sorting the wheat from the chaff is hardly trivial, when you meet a GOOD player, they're far more worthwhile holding onto that a hero or a henchie.

I mean, I'll take a level 14 warrior who _listens_ over a level 20 devona or koss, any day.

I worry that the sheer mass of idiots will lead to a situation where basically nobody pugs at all, ever. It's bad enough already, since most of the people you'd actually _like_ to pug with have already made the decision to H/H wherever possible, so you're often left with exactly the kind of person our OP has encountered.

And that's sad.